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100% Proven: RC Church is Antichrist!
Nicholas writes: Catholics and Protestants need to consider these facts Is there any other church that has admitted to torturing and killing over 100 Million Christians during the 1260 year prophecied time that Antichrist was to do this? No! Only the Roman Catholic Church can stake that claim. Andrew responds: People claiming to be Catholic and Protestant have harmed others in the long history of the world. However, the claim that Nicholas makes is utterly unfounded. The Church has not deliberately murdered people. Where he gets his figure of 100 million, only heaven knows, or perhaps I should say hell? Nicholas is lying because his hatred of Catholicism will not allow him to see the truth. The Church is the great advocate for the Gospel of Life in a secular culture of death. Nicholas would rather see this pro-death mentality continue than to associate with Catholic Christians in any way. Nicholas writes: Is there any other Church that stands as a Religious as well as Political entity as Antichrist is prophecied to do? No! Only the Roman Catholic Church can stake that claim. Andrew responds: In other words, Nicholas condemns the Catholic Church because she believes that the Good News of Christ has social and political implications, particularly regarding right and wrong, as well as the dignity of all human life. He hates the Church, both as a religious and as a political entity-- do not let him fool you. The Church is the Mother of saints and is the beginning of the breaking of Christ's kingdom into our world. Nicholas would make insignificant and impotent the Church and the saving proclamation of Christ. Nicholas writes: Is there any other Church that has invented doctrines that all the other churches of the world adopt as Antichrist was prophecied to convince them to do? No! Only the Roman Catholic Church can stake that claim. Andrew responds: But the world and all the other churches do NOT consider the Catholic Church to be the anti-Christ. Further, the development of doctrine is not "invention" but the result of devout theological reflection upon the truths of Christ. It is a sign of a living and dynamic Church. The Gospel is not abrogated; rather, our appreciation of the divine truths and mystery grows deeper throughout human history. Nicholas writes: Is there any other Church that has fulfilled 100% of all the great and small prophecies of Antichrist? No! Only the Roman Catholic Church can stake that claim. Andrew responds: Actually, it is only in the minds of anti-Catholic bigots who misread Scripture and disfigure religious truths that any such slander against Catholicism can be rendered. Most Christians who disagree with Catholicism are impressed by the Pope and recognize the true faith of Catholic believers. Many non-Catholics respect the Church for her devotion to her values and for her concern for the poor. The so-called prophecies say nothing about Catholicism. The Church is the bride of Christ, not the anti-Christ. The Church is prophetic of Christ. Indeed, if the Church is a legitimate tool used by God for the conversion of sinners, then Nicholas is maligning and opposing the work of God. Now, just who would that make the anti-Christ? Nicholas writes: Is there any other Church on planet Earth that has well over 1 Billion people of the world as members and still growing? No! Only the Roman Catholic Church can stake that claim. Andrew responds: Can there be any clearer evidence that what Nicholas says does NOT come from God? Our Lord told the apostles to go out to the entire world and to baptize in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit. The Catholic Church has been faithful to that commission. Nevertheless, Nicholas, who "trusts no one" is afraid of this large body of believers and equates successful evangelization with the demonic. Nicholas writes: Is there any other Church that is recognized as a world power as Antichrist was prophecied to be? No! Only the Roman Catholic Church can stake that claim. Andrew responds: The Vatican State is hardly much of a world power. The sovereignty of the Holy See is a happy accident of history, or rather I should say a safeguard insured by the Holy Spirit, to insure that the Church would never be reduced to a pawn of any secular power. Many European Protestant churches and, in a singular way, the Orthodox churches take their lead from the political governments. The King or Queen of England is still technically the head of the Church (Anglican) in that nation. Today, more than ever before, the Vatican State and the international assembly of cardinals has insured that the Church will belong to all men regardless of their nationality or ethnicity. The Pope weighs much in the way of moral and spiritual authority; however, his temporal authority is not counted in troops or in missiles, but rather in the power of the right hand of God. Christ is the true power of the Church. Nicholas writes: Is there any other Church that boldly proclaims their divine ability to change God's Law? No! Only the Roman Catholic Church can stake that claim. Andrew responds: Our Lord told Peter that whatever he declared bound or loosed on earth would be considered as such in heaven. However, while this regarded the forgiveness of sins and those matters necessary for the good order of the Church: Catholicism does not ignore divine positive law. The Ten Commandments are intact, although Nicholas numbers them differently. Further the Catholic Church recognizes a new economy of images introduced with the incarnation. The simple likeness of someone or something does not displease God as long as it is not an idol for worship. As for the movement of the Sabbath from Saturday to Sunday, this practice was already well on its way in apostolic and the immediate post-apostolic period. Ostracized from the synagogues and accepted increasing numbers of Gentiles, the center of gravity moved to Sunday (the eighth day) on which they celebrated the Agape feast and Lord's Supper-- the Eucharist. Nicholas writes: Is there any other Church that openly attacks using their "power" and evil methods those that can prove them Antichrist? No! Only the Roman Catholic Church can stake that claim. Andrew responds: Whom has the Church attacked? What evil methods is he talking about? Can we say that the abuses of the Protestant reformation mean that all non-Catholic churches are in league with the anti-Christ? How about the billion or so members of Islam, especially those intolerant of Christianity, are they to be ridiculed as the anti-Christ? What about the Communist Chinese, all one billion of them, are they the anti-Christ? How about the German people, particularly in light of the Holocaust, are they the anti-Christ? Nicholas wants to scapegoat an entire Church because of the wrongdoing of a few. He ignores the sacrifice of the saints and martyrs. He deafens himself to the Church's pleading for peace in a world seduced by greed and power and the love of war. Nicholas writes: Is there any other Church that is convincing other churches to merge with it as Antichrist was prophecied to do? No! Only the Roman Catholic Church can stake that claim. Andrew responds: What churches have been convinced to try reunion? The fruit of ecumenism has meant more cordial relations and mutual cooperation in the political and social arena, but little else has materialized. Yes, we hope for the reunion of Christendom because our division is the great scandal of Christianity. Two different synods of the Lutheran Church rejoined, are they now in league with the anti-Christ? Certain churches of Methodists, Presbyterians, Lutherans, and sometimes even Episcopalians allow concelebrating ministers and the interchange of their congregations-- are they the anti-Christ? Nicholas seems to forget that Catholicism came late to ecumenism. It was a Protestant movement to which the Catholic Church was invited. Nicholas writes: Is there any other Church that has a leader that openly claims himself "another God on earth?" No! Only the Roman Catholic Church can stake that claim. Andrew responds: The head of the Unification Church claims to be the new Messiah. The Dalai Lama claims to be a reincarnated spiritual leader. While rejecting such claims, Catholicism would contend that the Pope is the successor to St. Peter. The Catholic faith does NOT teach that the Bishop of Rome is another God on earth. Where do you get this nonsense, Nicholas? Sometimes a person in love might say that the beloved is "divine" however no real divinity is implied. It is possible that affectionate language for the Pope is being misconstrued. However, I am not certain what that terminology might be. Nicholas claims the Pope claims something that he does not claim. Nicholas writes: Is there any other Church that has had Historic Men of God openly proclaiming it as Antichrist? No! Only the Roman Catholic Church can stake that claim. Andrew responds: Are you accepting the testimony of anti-Catholic Protestant reformers, but not of faithful Catholics? I thought Nicholas rejected the testimony of men-- alas, so much for principles of convenience. The term "Historic" has no meaning here, unless you are arguing that it constitutes a Protestant tradition over Scripture. Nicholas is full of contradictions. This post of his is meaningless. In any case, many people of worldly merit have ascribed the anti-Christ to the Moslems, the Communists (particularly the Russians), the Jews, the scientific community, etc. It becomes a tedious guessing game that is no more than name-calling. Nicholas writes: Is there any other Church that claims to be "Christian" proclaiming "another" as Saviour besides Jesus Christ? No! Only the Roman Catholic Church can stake that claim. Andrew responds: Catholics believe that Jesus is our one Lord and Savior. You condemn a Church that does not exist. The true Catholic faith places Christ at the center of her life and worship. Nicholas, you cannot be this ignorant-- it must be outright deceit. Nicholas writes: Is there any other Church that has a leader that insists "All princes must kiss his feet only?" No! Only the Roman Catholic Church can stake that claim. Andrew responds: Monarchs of the past might have had similar customs. It is NOT part of the Papal ceremonial of respect. You will not find a single image of anyone kissing the Holy Father's feet in his past trip. Your assertion that this is current practice is another deception. Nicholas writes: Is there any other Church that teaches its flock to bow before statues, idols, icons, relics, and images in the name of Christianity? No! Only the Roman Catholic Church can stake that claim. Andrew responds: Actually, similar practices can be found in the East and West. Catholicism venerates sacred images, we do not worship them. Such is a distinction that you deliberately avoid to make. We bow before almighty God. Is that so bad? Nicholas talks like a man so filled with pride that his knees probably never kneel in prayer-- too bad. Nicholas writes: Is there any other Church that sacrifices Jesus Christ daily on the cross? No! Only the Roman Catholic Church can stake that claim. Andrew responds: Some of the Anglo-Catholics claim as much, as do the Eastern rites and Orthodox churches. Churches that breached themselves from Catholic unity would obviously reject the notion of a propitiatory sacrifice in the Mass. It is the one and the same sacrifice as Calvary. Jesus died once and for all-- he can never die again. The re-presentation through the sacrament resonates perfectly with the historical event of our redemption. Nicholas writes: Is there any other Church claiming to be Christian that has their leaders that drink, smoke, swear, and gamble openly before their flock? No! Only the Roman Catholic Church can stake that claim. Andrew responds: You must not know many Protestant ministers. I know of a minister, priest, and rabbi who play cards together. The Scriptures, both Old and New Testaments, attest to the use of wine among God's people-- more than grape juice. Lots were sometimes taken to determine replacements for deceased leadership. Smoking was not always known to be dangerous to health. And, as for swearing, the Church attests that foul language is a sin that should be avoided. You talk like these activities are REQUIRED of Catholic clergymen. I suspect that you are the kind of believer who avoids anything that causes too much joy as somehow sinful. This mentality can also be a sin. It derides the goodness of God's creation. If I recall correctly, the serpent in the primordial garden had a similar objective. Nicholas writes: Is there any other Church that blasphemously proclaims "they" have the power to forgive sins? No! Only the Roman Catholic Church can stake that claim. Andrew responds: Do not blame that Catholic Church, your argument is with Jesus Christ, Son of God, Savior of the World! 2 Corinthians 5:20: So we are ambassadors for Christ, God making his appeal through us. We beseech you on behalf of Christ, be reconciled to God. John 20:21-23: Jesus said to them again, "Peace be with you. As the Father has sent me, even so I send you." And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and said to them, "Receive the Holy Spirit. If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained." Matthew 18:18: "Truly, I say to you, whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven." 2 Corinthians 5:18-20: All this is from God, who through Christ reconciled us to himself and gave us the ministry of reconciliation; that is, God was in Christ reconciling the world to himself, not counting their trespasses against them, and entrusting to us the message of reconciliation. So we are ambassadors for Christ, God making his appeal through us. We beseech you on behalf of Christ, be reconciled to God. Nicholas writes: Is there any other Church that adds unholy books to the Bible? No! Only the Roman Catholic Church can stake that claim. Andrew responds: Sorry fella, look at the chronology-- the Catholic Church did not add books; rather, the Protestant reformers SUBTRACTED books using a Jewish redacted version of the Old Testament different from the canon quoted in the New Testament. Nicholas writes: Is there any other Church that teaches "their" church is the all embracing means of Salvation? No! Only the Roman Catholic Church can stake that claim. Andrew responds: So you say, but the practice of such critics as yourself gives a negative value to the Catholic faith. Indeed, Protestant relativism usually denotes any fundamentalist church as sufficient for fellowship as long as one is separated from the "damnable" Catholic Church. Otherwise, YOU deem salvation as forfeit. "Have you accepted Jesus as your personal Lord and savior?" The Church, so to speak, is reduced to ONE. At your own attestation, you formally belong to no church at the present time-- except that of your own fabrication. Those who disagree with you, particularly regarding Catholicism, are counted as lost unless they enter your small camp. You have no true notion of the Church as an organic body-- as the family of Christ. I would rather take my chances in the Church that Christ founded then in your little rebellious band in a religion of hate. Nicholas writes: Is there any other Church that "sells" indulgences for money so you may "buy" Heaven? No! Only the Roman Catholic Church can stake that claim. Andrew responds: Silly man, you do not even know what an indulgence is. How can you when you have brushed aside the Church as insignificant? Did you ever pay for one? Do you know anyone who ever did? The trafficking in indulgences was long ago condemned by the Catholic Church. Offerings may be offered to the Church so that she can continue Christ's work; however, the gift of salvation is free. Indulgences are often associated with certain prayers, penitential practices, and/or the visitation of particular churches or holy sites. The bountiful graces merited by saints pour into our lives just as surely as the blood circulates through an entire body. The reception of an indulgence implies living in a state of grace and recognition of the intercessory power of prayer. Dismantling the body of Christ, your impoverished view of the Church can allow for no such mercy. Nicholas writes: Is there any other Church that teaches you must worship a wafer/cookie? No! Only the Roman Catholic Church can stake that claim. Andrew responds: You are no Catholic and it is hard to believe that you ever were. You blaspheme God in your derision against the Blessed Sacrament. Our Lord, himself, told us that unless we eat his body and drink his blood, we could have no life in us. Having been a member of the true faith, you must be truly dead inside. Heaven save us from your corruption! Nicholas writes: Is there any other Church that teaches a human woman is your CoSaviour as well as SINLESS her entire life? No! Only the Roman Catholic Church can stake that claim. Andrew responds: We do NOT say that Mary is a Co-Savior. You are either ignorant in using religious terminology or you are playing deceitful games. The Church has not defined the title Co-Redemptrix. It simply denotes that the Sorrowful Mother offered herself with her Son on Calvary for our benefit. Jesus is the Savior of all. Even Mary claims the Lord as her Savior. The only difference is that saving merits of the cross touch us in faith and baptism while they embraced Mary in the womb so that her Son might enter the world through an immaculate vessel. Nicholas writes: Is there any other Church that has a leader who has numerous titles that equal 666 as Antichrist? No! Only the Roman Catholic Church can stake that claim. Andrew responds: They are all contrived by bigots like yourself from twisted facts and outright lies. The anti-Christs of the world have opposed the Church for two thousand years; today you have taken up their assault against Christ's People of God. Nicholas writes: Is there any other Church that proclaims changing the Sabbath from Saturday to Sunday as their MARK of authority as prophecy stated only Antichrist would do? No! Only the Roman Catholic Church can stake that claim. Andrew responds: The center of gravity moved to the Sunday observance when Christians were expelled from the synagogues. Since this change can be traced to apostolic or at least post-apostolic times, you oppose their authority as well. You would probably have also rejected the Council of Jerusalem and insisted that Christians had to first become Jews in opposition to Paul and the ultimate verdict of Peter. Yours is more an Old Testament than a New Testament religion. Nicholas writes: Is there any other Church working within Governments of the World to ensure their "Sabbath" is made into LAW and ENFORCED upon all mankind as prophecy stated Antichrist will do? No! Only the Roman Catholic Church can stake that claim. Andrew responds: Ah, have you seen the news lately? A talented Jewish young man will not play basketball on the Saturday Sabbath. He says that nothing will sway him from his conviction. Should not Christians be given the same privilege regarding Sunday? In any case, you are being silly again. Laws are going in the reverse direction. Blue laws have largely been discarded. Stores and restaurants are open all weekend. People are working and doing many other things on the Sabbath-- no matter what day is claimed. Should we not give some time back to God? Why do you protest the Pope's promotion of a day of rest? Could you be more a secularist than a Christian? Nicholas writes: The Almighty and every living Creator God has blessed us ALL with numerous prophecies that point directly to the Roman Catholic Church as the Antichrist/Beast of Revelation! Not 75% of the prophecies! Not 85%, not even 99%, but 100% of every single great and small prophecy that has ever been uttered regarding ANTICHRIST has been proven fulfilled in complete accuracy and to the letter by all the Popes of the ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH over the course of it's VERY documented history! A history that can be easily researched by absolutely anyone that has the ability to read a history book and a Bible. Andrew responds: No, Nicholas, if anything you have proven
that YOU are the anti-Christ, are at least one of such a number.
ZERO PERCENT of your so-called prophecy points to the Pope and the Catholic
Church. If anything, you make the case that the Catholic Church must
be the TRUE FAITH. Only the TRUE CHURCH of Jesus Christ could merit
such vile deceit and hatred from a figure the likes of you. I am
not the first to tell you that you are a very petty and disturbed man.
I will remember to pray for you the next time I participate at Mass.
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